There are several Sub-Committees that can still be signed up for:
Accessibility-
Includes consideration of persons with disabilities, sound and lighting- Tammy Hullin.
Worship-
Includes consideration of liturgical practices, worship service, pastoral issues, congregational issues- Shirley Engerbretson, Kurt Olsson, Pastors, Synod representative.
Entryway and narthex-
Includes consideration of all uses-Carolyn Guy.
Fellowship Hall and kitchen-
Includes consideration of all uses-Carolyn Todd.
Classrooms, offices and storage-
Includes consideration of all uses-Mike Whiteman, Katie Campbell.
Exterior and grounds-
Includes consideration of building exterior, “green” issues, parking, security, grounds, park- Kim Campbell, Larry Lass, Amy Wolbrecht.
Friday, April 25, 2008
Monday, April 21, 2008
Agenda for April 22 meeting
Emmanuel Building Committee
Proposed Agenda
Tuesday, April 22, 2008
5:00-7:00 p.m. at Emmanuel
[Non-committee members are welcome to attend and participate in discussion of all agenda items]
1. Prayer, Bible Study, and Spritual Dialogue.
2. Timely agenda items:
* Discussion of missions identified in 2006 small groups’ “Heart of Emmanuel”
* Development of Guiding Principles as context of our committee discussion:
– Statement of beliefs/ understanding of mission context.
– Consider means by which we can define and develop mission growth.
– Does present church facility support our missions?
* Discussion of conduct of the business of the building committee, including meeting structure and frequency, use of subcommittees and assignment of tasks to committee members.
3. Consideration of topics/items for future meetings.
4. Discussion of upcoming agenda, prerequisites for committee to meet in executive session and means of continuing dialogue with congregation.
5. Prayer and Adjourn.
Proposed Agenda
Tuesday, April 22, 2008
5:00-7:00 p.m. at Emmanuel
[Non-committee members are welcome to attend and participate in discussion of all agenda items]
1. Prayer, Bible Study, and Spritual Dialogue.
2. Timely agenda items:
* Discussion of missions identified in 2006 small groups’ “Heart of Emmanuel”
* Development of Guiding Principles as context of our committee discussion:
– Statement of beliefs/ understanding of mission context.
– Consider means by which we can define and develop mission growth.
– Does present church facility support our missions?
* Discussion of conduct of the business of the building committee, including meeting structure and frequency, use of subcommittees and assignment of tasks to committee members.
3. Consideration of topics/items for future meetings.
4. Discussion of upcoming agenda, prerequisites for committee to meet in executive session and means of continuing dialogue with congregation.
5. Prayer and Adjourn.
Saturday, April 19, 2008
Sanctuary Effects on Music
The following list was compiled by Tom Brandt of the Building committee and Music sub-committee.
How music ministry is affected at Emmanuel Lutheran Church
In the Heart of Emmanuel Ministries survey of the congregation, the number one concern, by far, was for better space for music, drama and worship. Below is a comparison of where our sanctuary works well in its current configuration and where it does not. Unless specified otherwise, I will refer to the area between the front of the organ screen and the altar rail as the “music area”.
Acoustics
Good: The acoustics from in front of the organ screen are quite good.
Poor: The acoustics from just about everywhere else in the Sanctuary are quite poor. There are many acoustical “dead spots” in the sanctuary. The sections on either side of the pulpit (where the choir and bell choir frequently perform) are some of the worst places.
Sight lines
Good: There are a few good sight lines from the pews. Circular seating allows congregation members to see some other members. The altar is at the center of the sanctuary.
Poor: From a choir/music perspective, most sight lines are poor in the sanctuary. The raised, solid altar blocks the view from the center aisle to anything in the organ/pulpit area. If the choir stands around the pulpit to sing, or attempts to sing from the entrance way (such as for an introit), it is difficult for the organist and choir director to see each other. Sightlines across the sanctuary from all locations are also blocked. Congregants cannot fully enjoy the visinal aspects of the bell choir, for example. When solo musicians participate in the service, there is not a good place for them to stand. The oversized pulpit blocks almost all views of the organ and music area from everywhere in the sanctuary.
Organ (pipes)
Good: The organ is situated in the best acoustical position in the sanctuary.
Poor: Phase 2 of the organ rebuild will require that the current organ screen be bumped out approx. 6 feet from its current position into the music area. This area is already cramped. If the organ rebuild is undertaken, there will not be room for the bell choir or choir in the music area behind the pulpit.
Organ console
Good: The organ console is currently placed so that the organist can clearly hear the organ (a must). The organ console can have some flexibility in its placement.
Poor: The organ console can not be moved significantly from its current location because of the pulpit and the steps leading to the choir/bells position. As mentioned earlier, the lack of flexibility in the position of the organ console means that the organist can have trouble seeing the choir director.
Pulpit
Good: The large pulpit is high enough so that a reader can be seen over the altar by the congregation.
Poor: The height and width of the pulpit currently impede just about every aspect of worship music. Also, the fact that the pulpit is immovable drastically restricts all activities in that area of the sanctuary.
Steps
Good: Raises, to a degree, people above the altar and the pulpit.
Poor: The steps around the altar and in the music area break up the available floor space and are cumbersome to negotiate. For example only tables with telescoping legs can be used for the handbells. The legs must be extended or collapsed to move the tables making set up and take down much more time consuming. The steps also restrict the placement of things such as the organ console, piano and handbell tables. In addition, they are not ADA compliant and limit, or prevent, access to the music area and the altar to the disabled.
Drama
Poor: Dramatic offerings are essentially impossible in the current configuration of the altar and music areas.
Risers
Good: We have a small set of risers that can be placed in front of the pulpit or in front of the organ screen.
Poor: If the risers are placed in front of the pulpit, access to the altar area from behind is essentially eliminated. Placing the risers behind the pulpit does little to increase visibility of the performers because the risers are not high enough to overcome the height of the pulpit, the stairs up to the organ screen are in the way. Also the bell tables would have to be moved to accommodate the use of risers in the area behind the pulpit.
Bell choirs
Good: The bell choir just fits into the optimal acoustic area of the music area.
Poor: Expansion of the bell choirs is impossible. There is no additional room for more bells or tables. Currently, there is very little room for additional musicians like brass, singers, etc. Access to the bell tables during the service is limited. During Advent and at Easter, the bell tables must be moved to the section of pews east of the music area in order to make room for the Christmas tree, the choir and other instruments. This area of the sanctuary is extremely poor acoustically. In addition, the tables must be raised above recommended playing height to clear the pew backs.
Singing choirs
Good: The choir can usually fit into the music area when no other groups are also performing.
Poor: When the bell tables are up (3/4 of the year), The space in front of the organ screen for the choir is very limited. Also even when the bell tables are not up, the choir must either sit behind the pulpit, isolated from the service, or must get up and walk to the music space from the pews. This can disrupt the flow of the service. It makes the choir seem more like a “performance” and less like part of the worship. When the choir has to sing from the pews on either side of the music area, the acoustics are very bad. The limited space behind the pulpit means that the choir and the bell choir can not participate in worship together very easily.
Outside concerts or other events
Poor: Because there is no performance space and the inflexibility of the configuration of the sanctuary, it is essentially impossible to hold any concert or musical activity involving outside groups. Activities could include recitals, concerts by the Idaho Washington Concert Chorale or Tapestry, etc.
How music ministry is affected at Emmanuel Lutheran Church
In the Heart of Emmanuel Ministries survey of the congregation, the number one concern, by far, was for better space for music, drama and worship. Below is a comparison of where our sanctuary works well in its current configuration and where it does not. Unless specified otherwise, I will refer to the area between the front of the organ screen and the altar rail as the “music area”.
Acoustics
Good: The acoustics from in front of the organ screen are quite good.
Poor: The acoustics from just about everywhere else in the Sanctuary are quite poor. There are many acoustical “dead spots” in the sanctuary. The sections on either side of the pulpit (where the choir and bell choir frequently perform) are some of the worst places.
Sight lines
Good: There are a few good sight lines from the pews. Circular seating allows congregation members to see some other members. The altar is at the center of the sanctuary.
Poor: From a choir/music perspective, most sight lines are poor in the sanctuary. The raised, solid altar blocks the view from the center aisle to anything in the organ/pulpit area. If the choir stands around the pulpit to sing, or attempts to sing from the entrance way (such as for an introit), it is difficult for the organist and choir director to see each other. Sightlines across the sanctuary from all locations are also blocked. Congregants cannot fully enjoy the visinal aspects of the bell choir, for example. When solo musicians participate in the service, there is not a good place for them to stand. The oversized pulpit blocks almost all views of the organ and music area from everywhere in the sanctuary.
Organ (pipes)
Good: The organ is situated in the best acoustical position in the sanctuary.
Poor: Phase 2 of the organ rebuild will require that the current organ screen be bumped out approx. 6 feet from its current position into the music area. This area is already cramped. If the organ rebuild is undertaken, there will not be room for the bell choir or choir in the music area behind the pulpit.
Organ console
Good: The organ console is currently placed so that the organist can clearly hear the organ (a must). The organ console can have some flexibility in its placement.
Poor: The organ console can not be moved significantly from its current location because of the pulpit and the steps leading to the choir/bells position. As mentioned earlier, the lack of flexibility in the position of the organ console means that the organist can have trouble seeing the choir director.
Pulpit
Good: The large pulpit is high enough so that a reader can be seen over the altar by the congregation.
Poor: The height and width of the pulpit currently impede just about every aspect of worship music. Also, the fact that the pulpit is immovable drastically restricts all activities in that area of the sanctuary.
Steps
Good: Raises, to a degree, people above the altar and the pulpit.
Poor: The steps around the altar and in the music area break up the available floor space and are cumbersome to negotiate. For example only tables with telescoping legs can be used for the handbells. The legs must be extended or collapsed to move the tables making set up and take down much more time consuming. The steps also restrict the placement of things such as the organ console, piano and handbell tables. In addition, they are not ADA compliant and limit, or prevent, access to the music area and the altar to the disabled.
Drama
Poor: Dramatic offerings are essentially impossible in the current configuration of the altar and music areas.
Risers
Good: We have a small set of risers that can be placed in front of the pulpit or in front of the organ screen.
Poor: If the risers are placed in front of the pulpit, access to the altar area from behind is essentially eliminated. Placing the risers behind the pulpit does little to increase visibility of the performers because the risers are not high enough to overcome the height of the pulpit, the stairs up to the organ screen are in the way. Also the bell tables would have to be moved to accommodate the use of risers in the area behind the pulpit.
Bell choirs
Good: The bell choir just fits into the optimal acoustic area of the music area.
Poor: Expansion of the bell choirs is impossible. There is no additional room for more bells or tables. Currently, there is very little room for additional musicians like brass, singers, etc. Access to the bell tables during the service is limited. During Advent and at Easter, the bell tables must be moved to the section of pews east of the music area in order to make room for the Christmas tree, the choir and other instruments. This area of the sanctuary is extremely poor acoustically. In addition, the tables must be raised above recommended playing height to clear the pew backs.
Singing choirs
Good: The choir can usually fit into the music area when no other groups are also performing.
Poor: When the bell tables are up (3/4 of the year), The space in front of the organ screen for the choir is very limited. Also even when the bell tables are not up, the choir must either sit behind the pulpit, isolated from the service, or must get up and walk to the music space from the pews. This can disrupt the flow of the service. It makes the choir seem more like a “performance” and less like part of the worship. When the choir has to sing from the pews on either side of the music area, the acoustics are very bad. The limited space behind the pulpit means that the choir and the bell choir can not participate in worship together very easily.
Outside concerts or other events
Poor: Because there is no performance space and the inflexibility of the configuration of the sanctuary, it is essentially impossible to hold any concert or musical activity involving outside groups. Activities could include recitals, concerts by the Idaho Washington Concert Chorale or Tapestry, etc.
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